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They struggled to get pregnant for nearly two years. They gave it a go the natural way and then did three or four intrauterine inseminations, where the sperm is washed, concentrated and placed directly into a woman's uterus at an optimal time.

But as mom and dad were both "pushing 40," these methods didn't work, and the couple decided to try in vitro fertilization. With in vitro, or IVF, several eggs are fertilized outside the body; the resulting embryos are then implanted in the woman's womb.

It worked -- on the first try. But the result wasn't exactly what this couple was looking for.

"To say we're excited would be an exaggeration," the dad wrote on Babble.com in an anonymous post that recently started trending on social media. "More truthfully, we're pissed. And terrified, and angry, and guilty, and regretful."

You see, both embryos that were implanted stuck. The wife is pregnant with twins.

"I lay on the table -- dazed and unhappy -- as I received the news that there were two healthy sacs present," the anonymous mom wrote in a separate post. "We were pregnant with twins -- twin boys, we'd find out later. In my mind I had done nothing less than ruin our family."

To say the reaction from Babble's readers was angry would be an understatement. Many blasted the couple for being ungrateful. Selfish. Bitter. "Seriously, suck. it. up," one commenter wrote.

But there was a small majority who seemed to sympathize with how these new parents were feeling: overwhelmed, exhausted and afraid they won't be able to provide for these new lives in addition to their older son.

Multiple births are an increasingly common outcome for couples using assisted reproductive technology, according to the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, and IVF is often responsible.

"A woman undergoing IVF has an approximate 22-fold increased risk of conceiving a twin pregnancy and a 100-fold increased risk of conceiving a triplet pregnancy, as compared with natural conception," ACOG's website says.

So why do doctors still occasionally place multiple embryos in women who undergo IVF? Because the chances that even one will stick and grow into a baby are low. According to the Society for Assisted Reproductive Technologies, women under the age of 35 have a less than 43 percent chance of giving birth after IVF; women over 41 have a less than 18 percent chance.

Dr. Dorothy Mitchell-Leef, a fertility specialist in Atlanta, always has a long conversation with her patients before implanting any embryos. She said she discusses the risks, the possibility of multiples and the chances that the couple may not get pregnant.

"They may be angry because maybe that's not what they wanted," Mitchell-Leef said of the anonymous couple on Babble.com. "But they have to ask themselves: Did you have a conversation that stressed the fact that you did not want more than one pregnancy?"

The problem, she said, is that no doctor can promise which embryos are going to take, if any at all.

IVF specialists have become more cautious. As doctors saw the multiple birth rates increase dramatically in the United States, they began transferring fewer embryos to the mother. Most of the time, Mitchell-Leef said, she only implants one. But the quality of the embryos matters; so does the woman's age.

A 41-year-old with three embryos has a low chance of any one of those being normal, "but the better chance is to put three in hoping that one will take," Mitchell-Leef said.

You may remember how Nadya Suleman -- aka "Octomom" -- was criticized for not reducing the number of embryos she carried before giving birth to octuplets.

Selective reduction -- which involves aborting one, or more than one, of the fetuses -- was also a possibility for this anonymous Babble couple. In general, the decision to do a reduction for twins is extremely controversial. Twins don't necessarily carry high health risks to the mother or her children beyond perhaps needing bed rest and more intense care, Mitchell-Leef said.

"We considered a reduction for about 30 seconds," this anonymous father wrote. "If you thought that IVF involved playing god, a reduction felt beyond brazen -- Machiavellian, even."

Selective reduction is usually done between 9 and 12 weeks into the pregnancy. A doctor will use a needle to inject potassium chloride into the fetus, according to the National Institutes of Health. There is a small risk the mother will miscarry all the fetuses with this procedure.


Multiple gestation is risky for both mom and the babies, according to the American Society for Reproductive Medicine. Multiples are more likely to have developmental problems. Moms carrying multiples are more likely to miscarry, develop gestational diabetes and to suffer from high blood pressure-related issues such as pre-eclampsia.

But multiples can also be a blessing.

"You will make it work and you will love these children," posted one commenter, who says she's the mother of twins. "I won't lie and say that it is going to be a breeze, because it won't. But I promise you if you pull through the first year together as a team you will be the strongest kind of family there can be, and nothing can stop you from there!"



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I don't blame people for their feelings, because you feel what you feel, right or not. But to go around telling people? I have no sympathy.



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Judgy McJudgerson here - these people need to STFU. Seriously. In a topic rife with dissappointment, frustruation, futility and genuine hearthache---twins have "ruined" your family? If their life situation is soooo precarious that two babies could ruin it, they had NO business doing IVF in the first place. They had money to do "three or four intrauterine inseminations" (probably not cheap) and then IVF (definitely not cheap), but now providing for a 3 children will break them?

I hope some other woman struggling with infertility punches them in their big stupid faces.

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I get being overwhelmed at the thought of having multiples. I would probably have a nervous breakdown if I were to get pregnant with twins, but I wouldn't go around whining about it. If they needed to talk about it, okay, sure, but it feels like they're looking for compensation. IVF has a known increased risk of multiples and they accepted that risk when they consented to the procedure. I'd have much more respect for them had they chosen selective reduction instead of just bitching about it.

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I saw that article yesterday and I was really taken aback by these people. I mean it's not like the didn't know that twins were a very real possibility, and to say they regretful? I really just don't get it!

I agree that feelings are feelings, but it seems like they were so into trying to have another baby that they didn't really thought about the consequences of what they were doing. And I also agree with Ophelia if they had enough money to do all of the procedures to get pregnant having one more child it's not that big of a deal (in my opinion).
Unless they always thought that their "perfect family" is a family of 4 and having a third kid is messing up with that image they had of their family.

Either way suck it up buttercup! What were they expecting from the rant? That someone would offer to adopt one of the kids once they are born?

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I think their attitude is so indicative of whiny spoiled people who are so used to getting things their own way and don't know how to cope with the unexpected. If you're pushing 40, you know your changes of starting a family are limited to begin with and instead of considering this a "double-blessing" they're acting like they've been cursed.

I just hope they get some kind of pre-twins counseling; I would hate to think that once the children are here, they will be resentful and start favoring one twin over the other and wishing that they'd never had the second child. And, seriously, if they don't want the second child and they are not planning to terminate, they should consider adoption and make some other couple happy.

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And it would be "Machiavellian" to selectively abort? I don't think that word means what he thinks it means.

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I can't imagine the levels of self-absorption and control-freakness at which these two people operate. To want a baby so desperatelt that they undergo invasive and expensive processes only to end up screamig that they only wanted ONE baby, not TWO babies, GOSH!

And don't evven get me started on the whole disappointment over the "wrong" sex of the babies.

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