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What does "feminism" mean to you? [7 vote(s)]

Belief in equality between men and women
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Belief in the interests of women, regardless of equality with men
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RichardInTN


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The dictionary has the wrong definition based on the overabundance of misuse whereby the wrong definition has become the de facto definition.

 

Feminism is the exaltation of female power or supremacy... it comes from the combination of the Latin "femina" (woman) and "ism" (meaning a preferred system by it's adherents). If the word had anything to do with actual equality it wouldn't reference just one gender.

 

 

ETA: The second paragraph was my answer to the OP's question, based on the thread title.



-- Edited by RichardInTN on Wednesday 11th of September 2013 06:21:25 PM

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I know what the dictionary says, but I'm more interested in popular opinion.



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Yes, that's why I was asking people's opinions instead of the dictionary.

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I would say both the first and second.

The first, because feminism is about things like equal pay for equal work, and equal opportunity, etc. I also think the second because feminism also addresses issues that affect women. For example, access to contraception and abortion are part of the feminist movement, because women carry children.

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To me, it's equality between men and women. It's also about women being free to make the choices that are right for them without fear of societal reprisal. It has nothing to do with dominance over the male gender, which sadly what many people feel feminism is and therefore are afraid to say they are feminists.

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Aardvark wrote:

To me, it's equality between men and women. It's also about women being free to make the choices that are right for them without fear of societal reprisal. It has nothing to do with dominance over the male gender, which sadly what many people feel feminism is and therefore are afraid to say they are feminists.

If it's about equality between men and women... then why is there only one specific gender represented... instead of both or none?

 

That's my problem with the term (and most of the people that identify as one). Words have power. It's important to make them address the truth about what they stand for when creating them.

Equality for men and women would be "egalitarian" or "humanism"... something like that.



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Because men have never been repressed the way women have.

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Aardvark wrote:

Because men have never been repressed the way women have.

That'd depend on which men, wouldn't it? Jewish men in many parts of the world were repressed plenty, but I don't see self-proclaimed Judaists going around sticking it to the gentile "man." That would have foolishly fostered hard feelings & bred resentment.

I note also in passing, at the modern public K-12 school, boys are repressed plenty.



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Papa Bear wrote:
Aardvark wrote:

Because men have never been repressed the way women have.

That'd depend on which men, wouldn't it? Jewish men in many parts of the world were repressed plenty, but I don't see self-proclaimed Judaists going around sticking it to the gentile "man." That would have foolishly fostered hard feelings & bred resentment.

I note also in passing, at the modern public K-12 school, boys are repressed plenty.

 While Jewish men have been oppressed, that was part of oppression of Jews as a whole. Jewish men have never, as a group, been oppressed in a situation where Jewish women were not also oppressed. Whereas in every culture on earth, women have been treated at some point as second-class citizens.



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Aardvark wrote:

Because men have never been repressed the way women have.

I'm not saying that they have. I'll happily admit that until recently (in comparison to the total existence of mankind), it pretty much was "man's way". No argument.

 

But... that doesn't change the fact that the word "feminism" relates to exactly one gender... so therefore there is no equality inherent in the word.



-- Edited by RichardInTN on Friday 13th of September 2013 09:59:20 PM

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Papa Bear wrote:
Aardvark wrote:

Because men have never been repressed the way women have.

That'd depend on which men, wouldn't it? Jewish men in many parts of the world were repressed plenty, but I don't see self-proclaimed Judaists going around sticking it to the gentile "man." That would have foolishly fostered hard feelings & bred resentment.

I note also in passing, at the modern public K-12 school, boys are repressed plenty.

 Yes, but not on the basis of gender, but on the basis of religion.



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Papa Bear wrote:
 

I note also in passing, at the modern public K-12 school, boys are repressed plenty.

 Examples, please.



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Boys are not repressed because they are boys. The modern school system is not well calibrated to deal with normal boy development and behaviors, but that is not the same as them being repressed because they are boys.

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I think the word means what the dictionary says it means.

the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.

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