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Aurora · Senior Member

Biological Reality vs. Religious Delusion: Preacher Learns the Hard Way that Venomous Snakes Can Kill You

RichardInTN · I believe in I.D.I.C.

LOL... Yup. It's wrong to laugh at that, yet I'm right there with you on the laughing couch.

Hello? Poisonous, deadly snake. Anyone wanna guess what the possible outcomes are? I'll take "Death by snake bite" for $1,000, Alex...

EmmDee · Guru

Wow....yeah, no words for some people

Balloon Animal · Guru

I heard about this. I am not going to laugh at him but I don't feel sorry for him either. Don't mess with nature.

winds55 · Guru

Aurora wrote:

Emergency services were called to the church, arriving around 8:30 pm, but Coots had already gone home. Emergency services then proceeded to go to his home to take him to the hospital to treat his bite. Only when they showed up, he refused to go to the hospital despite their dire warnings. Well, as one might expect to happen after someone is bitten by a deadly snake – Mr. Coots later died.
For the record, Mr. Coots had lost half a finger previously to a snake bite. Now, one would think that if you believe those “anointed by God” aren’t harmed by snakes, and you had already lost half a finger, you might think to yourself, “Hmm, maybe I’m not anointed by God. The snake not only bit me, but it took half my finger.”

Am I the only one imaging St Peter meeting him at the gate, channeling Bill Engvall: "you were warned by losing the finger, we sent the ambulance, and you ignored it all? Here's your sign!"

Desdenova · Motherhood: Sleep is for the weak!!

I wonder what was going through this person mind when it happened. Was he thinking, God will save me, God won't let me die.
And I agree with winds, I mean the ambulance went out all the way to his house to try to help him, divine intervention doesn't mean that you get cured magically, it means that you get the means to have the help you need.

It's sad that this guy died. Darwin Awards all the way.

winds55 · Guru

Des, there are people who think if they trust God and pray hard enough, God will cure them. Accepting medical intervention, to them, means they don't trust God enough, so a cure won't happen. Children have died of treatable illnesses because their parents refuse to get medical treatment for their kids.

iluvsuomi1989 · Senior Member

I'm just hoping that if this guy had any kind of life insurance policy, that it doesn't pay out if the death is under these circumstances. I'm just wondering what his very last thoughts were. Maybe, "Oops!"

Desdenova · Motherhood: Sleep is for the weak!!

winds55 wrote:
Des, there are people who think if they trust God and pray hard enough, God will cure them. Accepting medical intervention, to them, means they don't trust God enough, so a cure won't happen. Children have died of treatable illnesses because their parents refuse to get medical treatment for their kids.

I've heard of them, and it makes absolutely no sense to me. I tried to put into words but I just can't, lets just say that I believe doctors are here for a reason, and that God gave us free will for a reason.

Also from my point of view, God is love and he wont shut the doors of heaven just because you seek medical treatment.

Aurora · Senior Member

winds55 wrote:
Aurora wrote:

Emergency services were called to the church, arriving around 8:30 pm, but Coots had already gone home. Emergency services then proceeded to go to his home to take him to the hospital to treat his bite. Only when they showed up, he refused to go to the hospital despite their dire warnings. Well, as one might expect to happen after someone is bitten by a deadly snake – Mr. Coots later died.
For the record, Mr. Coots had lost half a finger previously to a snake bite. Now, one would think that if you believe those “anointed by God” aren’t harmed by snakes, and you had already lost half a finger, you might think to yourself, “Hmm, maybe I’m not anointed by God. The snake not only bit me, but it took half my finger.”

Am I the only one imaging St Peter meeting him at the gate, channeling Bill Engvall: "you were warned by losing the finger, we sent the ambulance, and you ignored it all? Here's your sign!"

No, you are not. biggrin

RichardInTN · I believe in I.D.I.C.

It made me thing of the "God will save me" joke...

There's a seasonal flood expected so the News stations all give out plenty of warning and MOST of the people of the small town manage to get to safe high ground.
Except one guy.

As his neighbors are hurriedly leaving they ask him if he needs a ride.
He replies: "God will save me!"
The neighbors leave.

The flood comes and the man scrambles up on his roof.

A little while later, a guy in a canoe comes by and asks if he needs help.
He replies: "God will save me!"
The guy in the canoe goes on his way and helps the next person he finds, someone that actually WANTS his help.

A little while later, a guy in an air-boat comes by and asks if he needs help.
He replies: "God will save me!"
The guy in the air-boat leaves to see fi anyone else needs help.

A little bit after that a couple in a hot-air balloon drift by and shout down "Do you need any help?"
The guy replies: "God will save me!"
The balloon drifts off, on it's way, following the wind...

A little bit later a helicopter comes by and the pilot asks through it's PA System: "Do you need any help?"
The man waves him off and shouts "God will save me!"

Not too long after that, the building finally gives up it's fight and collapses into the raging waters... and the man drowns and dies.

The man is up in heaven, and comes across God, and he asks: "God... why didn't you save me?"
God's reply: "I made sure there was warning, I gave you compassionate neighbors, I sent you a canoe, an air-boat, a hot-air balloon, and a helicopter... what were you waiting for?"

Balloon Animal · Guru

Desdenova wrote:
winds55 wrote:
Des, there are people who think if they trust God and pray hard enough, God will cure them. Accepting medical intervention, to them, means they don't trust God enough, so a cure won't happen. Children have died of treatable illnesses because their parents refuse to get medical treatment for their kids.
I've heard of them, and it makes absolutely no sense to me. I tried to put into words but I just can't, lets just say that I believe doctors are here for a reason, and that God gave us free will for a reason.
Also from my point of view, God is love and he wont shut the doors of heaven just because you seek medical treatment.

This exactly is my belief. God gave people the intelligence to make medicines and know how to treat illness and fix you when you are hurt. Why would you not believe that or not take advantage of that?

Desdenova · Motherhood: Sleep is for the weak!!

RichardInTN wrote:
It made me thing of the "God will save me" joke...

There's a seasonal flood expected so the News stations all give out plenty of warning and MOST of the people of the small town manage to get to safe high ground.
Except one guy.

As his neighbors are hurriedly leaving they ask him if he needs a ride.
He replies: "God will save me!"
The neighbors leave.

The flood comes and the man scrambles up on his roof.

A little while later, a guy in a canoe comes by and asks if he needs help.
He replies: "God will save me!"
The guy in the canoe goes on his way and helps the next person he finds, someone that actually WANTS his help.

A little while later, a guy in an air-boat comes by and asks if he needs help.
He replies: "God will save me!"
The guy in the air-boat leaves to see fi anyone else needs help.

A little bit after that a couple in a hot-air balloon drift by and shout down "Do you need any help?"
The guy replies: "God will save me!"
The balloon drifts off, on it's way, following the wind...

A little bit later a helicopter comes by and the pilot asks through it's PA System: "Do you need any help?"
The man waves him off and shouts "God will save me!"

Not too long after that, the building finally gives up it's fight and collapses into the raging waters... and the man drowns and dies.

The man is up in heaven, and comes across God, and he asks: "God... why didn't you save me?"
God's reply: "I made sure there was warning, I gave you compassionate neighbors, I sent you a canoe, an air-boat, a hot-air balloon, and a helicopter... what were you waiting for?"

That's it exactly!!! Thank you Richard!

I mean The Man itself will not come to you to save you in person, but He will give you tools to be saved.

Desdenova · Motherhood: Sleep is for the weak!!

Balloon Animal wrote:
Desdenova wrote:
winds55 wrote:
Des, there are people who think if they trust God and pray hard enough, God will cure them. Accepting medical intervention, to them, means they don't trust God enough, so a cure won't happen. Children have died of treatable illnesses because their parents refuse to get medical treatment for their kids.
I've heard of them, and it makes absolutely no sense to me. I tried to put into words but I just can't, lets just say that I believe doctors are here for a reason, and that God gave us free will for a reason.
Also from my point of view, God is love and he wont shut the doors of heaven just because you seek medical treatment.
This exactly is my belief. God gave people the intelligence to make medicines and know how to treat illness and fix you when you are hurt. Why would you not believe that or not take advantage of that?

Also this!